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[DRGW] This week's arcane question: about CZ power Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-03 16:28:14
[DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-03 16:47:32
[DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-04 22:26:50
[DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-04 23:32:36
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power BNSFBarker@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 01:31:44
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 16:12:06
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power Mel Patrick raildudemel@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 09:31:43
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 16:59:25
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power BNSFBarker@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 12:03:40
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 17:06:52
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power BNSFBarker@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 12:32:55
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 18:21:00
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power Mel Patrick raildudemel@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 11:23:58
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power Mel Patrick raildudemel@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 12:10:04
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power BNSFBarker@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 14:11:04
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 19:24:10
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power BNSFBarker@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 14:28:44
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-05 19:37:40
Re: [DRGW] Re: This week's arcane question: about CZ power glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 03:11:42
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<p>It was all F3&#39;s after the PA&#39;s were completely removed from the CZ circa 1958 or so.&nbsp; I&#39;ve only seen one photo dated 1959 IIRC with PA&#39;s on the CZ but most were dated no later than 1958.&nbsp; I think it&#39;s reasonable to say that from 1960 thru retirement of the F3&#39;s, power for the CZ was drawn from the 3 ABBA sets of F3&#39;s as a &quot;standard&quot;.&nbsp; That leaves set #5531-34 and 5541-44.</p><p><br>There are photo&#39;s of F9m 5531 (wreck rebuilt F3A) on secondary passenger trains in the last couple years of F3 service so most likely the other set, and photo&#39;s mostly confirm this, was F3 set 5541,5542,5543,5544 as the other prime power.</p><p><br></p><p>Honestly I can&#39;t say I&#39;ve seen any photo of an F7A or F9A powering the CZ prior to 1965.&nbsp; F3 set 5521-24 were wrecked in summer of 1965 - wreck photo&#39;s show B unit which has a 48&quot; DB fan so it was probably one of the F9B&#39;s that was originally part of the F9 5771-5774 set - cooling coils typical of the F9&#39;s were also visible on the roof IIRC.&nbsp; In other words, evidence at least of B units drawn from F7 or F9&#39;s during the last year or F3 service on the CZ.</p><p><br>So after that wreck and the loss of a set of F3&#39;s in summer of 65, probably F9&#39;s and F7&#39;s were drawn on to fill the gap - and there are photo&#39;s showing this dated in Oct 65 with them even mixed with F3&#39;s.&nbsp; But prior to 65, I&#39;ve never seen any photo&#39;s with F7As and/or F9A&#39;s in CZ power sets; but of course never say never. I doubt there was a fluid assignment using F9A or F7A&#39;s prior to 1965 - at least based on lots of photo&#39;s I&#39;ve reviewed.</p><p><br>Cheers, Jim Fitch<br class="yui-cursor"></p>



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