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SV: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank 'Roland Levin' roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-18 09:21:43
Re: SV: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank Steven Seguine rgsteve@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-19 02:33:55
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From: Steven Seguine rgsteve@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...)
Date: 2017-10-19 02:33:55
Subject: Re: SV: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank

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Athearn has a 1200 gallon tank on some of their earlier run of Rio Grande G=
P9's.=C2=A0 My 5913 had it but my 5924 had a 1600 gallon.=C2=A0 I wrote to =
them and got the 1200 gallon tank part to correct that model.Steven Seguine=
Orem, Utah

From: "'Roland Levin' roland.levin@bredband.n... [DRGW]" <DRGW@yaho.g...=
oups.com>
To: DRGW@yahoogroups.c...=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: SV: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank
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=C2=A0 Dear DaveThis is prof enough for me. Thanks for bringing this info=
rmation to me. I can now start to figure out a way to build a 1200 gallon t=
ank that fits over the tank of the Atlas model. =C2=A0I have already cut do=
wn the 1600 gallon tank on the Proto2000 model to represent a 1200 gallon t=
ank on an early GP9. The Athearn GP9 model has the correct sixe for later G=
P9:s. =C2=A0It=E2=80=99s a nice detail to have different and correct tanks =
on different GP7 and GP9. =C2=A0Roland =C2=A0Fr=C3=A5n: DRGW@yahoogroups.c...=
m [mailto:DRGW@yahoogroups.c...]=20
Skickat: den 18 oktober 2017 05:25
Till: DRGW@yahoogroups.c...
=C3=84mne: [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Roland =C2=A0On=
ly direct resource I have (since no one has yet responded) is the 'RGMHS Ri=
o Grande Source Data Vol 2' which includes 'Folio 10' folder for document i=
dentified as 'General Description- Diesel Electric locomotives' dated Jan 2=
1963 Issued by Chief Mechanical Officer=C2=A0 John Ayer Jr. These are the =
mechanical engineering drawings w technical specs and paint indicated. =C2=
=A0Sheet 15-A of Folio 10 (Issue date Jul 1 1961) gives 1500 HP Road Switch=
ers EMD GP7 Fuel Oil capacity 1200 gallons for units 5100- 5113 (Nov 1950- =
Jul 1952 ). =C2=A0Sheet 15-D Folio 10 (Issue date Jul 1 1961)=C2=A0 gives 1=
750 HP Road Switchers EMD GP9:units 5901- 5924- 1200 gallons (May 1955) and=
units 5931- 5954- 1600 gallons (June 1955- Jul 1956). =C2=A0Your assertion=
appears correct. Nothing else on the roster except switchers had less than=
these, so I guess 800g may be based on an 'Eastern' road that didn't wande=
r far from sustenance ;-}. =C2=A0Trust this helps, =C2=A0regards,Dave W Au=
ckland New Zealand. =C2=A0++++++---In DRGW@yahoogroups.c..., <roland.levin@.=
..> wrote :Hi,The size of GP7 fue! l tanks have been discussed on the list =
several times. All agree that GP7 and the first batch of GP9 had a smaller =
tank and that the second batch of GP9 had a larger tank. =C2=A0The size of =
the smaller tank has been stated as both 800 gallons and 1200 gallons. The =
larger tank seems to be 1600 gallons. =C2=A0Atlas latest release of DRGW GP=
7 has a 800 gallons tank. All the photos I have seen indicates that the sma=
ller tank was 1200 gallons. =C2=A0Is there any official documentation from =
Rio Grande where the size of the tanks is stated? =C2=A0Best regardsRoland =
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i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508380029485_7716"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_150838002=
9485_7715">Athearn has a 1200 gallon tank on some of their earlier run of R=
io Grande GP9's.&nbsp; My 5913 had it but my 5924 had a 1600 gallon.&nbsp; =
I wrote to them and got the 1200 gallon tank part to correct that model.</s=
pan></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508380029485_7716" dir=3D"ltr"><spa=
n>Steven Seguine</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508380029485_771=
6" dir=3D"ltr"><span>Orem, Utah</span></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508380029485_7452"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo=
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "'Roland Levin' roland.l=
evin@bredband.n... [DRGW]" &lt;DRGW@yahoogroups.c...&gt;<br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> DRGW@yahoogroups.c... <br> <b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 18, 2017 1:=
21 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> SV: [DR=
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3_16_0_ym19_1_1508380029485_7481"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Dear Da=
ve</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1508380029485_7775"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">This is prof enough=
for me. </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Thanks for=
bringing this information to me. I can now start to figure out a way to bu=
ild a 1200 gallon tank that fits over the tank of the Atlas model.</span></=
div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal" i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508380029485_7776"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;">I have already cut down the 1600 gallon tank on the Proto2=
000 model to represent a 1200 gallon tank on an early GP9. The Athearn GP9 =
model has the correct sixe for later GP9:s.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv32=
32803053MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> &nbsp;=
</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">It=E2=80=99s a nice detail to have different and c=
orrect tanks on different GP7 and GP9.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3232803=
053MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> &nbsp;</spa=
n></div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15083=
80029485_7777"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Roland</spa=
n></div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"=
rect" name=3D"_MailEndCompose" href=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
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e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Fr=C3=A5n:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508380029485_7780"> DRGW@yahoogroups.c... [mail=
to:DRGW@yahoogroups.c...] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Skickat:</b> den 18 oktober =
2017 05:25<br clear=3D"none"><b>Till:</b> DRGW@yahoogroups.c...<br clear=3D"=
none"><b>=C3=84mne:</b> [DRGW] Re: GP7 and fuel tank</span></div></div></di=
v><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15083800294=
85_7782"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_=
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g"><div id=3D"yiv3232803053ygrp-msg"><div id=3D"yiv3232803053ygrp-text"><di=
v> &nbsp;</div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Roland</div></div=
><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div></div><div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Only direct resource I have (since no one ha=
s yet responded) is the 'RGMHS Rio Grande Source Data Vol 2' which includes=
'Folio 10' folder for document identified as 'General Description- Diesel =
Electric locomotives' dated Jan 2 1963 Issued by Chief Mechanical Officer&n=
bsp; John Ayer Jr. </div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">T=
hese are the mechanical engineering drawings w technical specs and paint in=
dicated.</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div=
></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Sheet 15-A of Folio 10 (I=
ssue date Jul 1 1961) gives 1500 HP Road Switchers EMD GP7 Fuel Oil capacit=
y 1200 gallons for units 5100- 5113 (Nov 1950- Jul 1952 ).</div></div><div>=
<div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div></div><div><div class=3D=
"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Sheet 15-D Folio 10 (Issue date Jul 1 1961)&nbsp; =
gives 1750 HP Road Switchers EMD GP9:</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232=
803053MsoNormal">units 5901- 5924- 1200 gallons (May 1955) and </div><div><=
div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">units 5931- 5954- 1600 gallons (June 1=
955- Jul 1956).</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p;</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Your assertion app=
ears correct. Nothing else on the roster except switchers had less than the=
se, so I guess 800g may be based on an 'Eastern' road that didn't wander fa=
r from sustenance ;-}.</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal=
"> &nbsp;</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Trust this =
helps, </div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>=
</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">regards,</div></div>=
<div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Dave W </div></div><div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal">Auckland New Zealand.</div></div><div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv323=
2803053MsoNormal">++++++</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3232803053MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">---In <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:DRGW@yahoogroups.c..." target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
DRGW@yahoogroups.c...">DRGW@yahoogroups.c...</a>, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:roland.levin@..." target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:roland.levin@...">roland.levin@...</a>&gt; wrote :</div><div id=3D"yi=
v3232803053ygrps-yiv-301188890"><div>Hi,</div><div>The size of GP7 fue! l t=
anks have been discussed on the list several times. All agree that GP7 and =
the first batch of GP9 had a smaller tank and that the second batch of GP9 =
had a larger tank.</div><div> &nbsp;</div><div>The size of the smaller tank=
has been stated as both 800 gallons and 1200 gallons. The larger tank seem=
s to be 1600 gallons.</div><div> &nbsp;</div><div>Atlas latest release of D=
RGW GP7 has a 800 gallons tank. All the photos I have seen indicates that t=
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