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[DRGW] Caboose era question Jim (stone.jim1@gmail.c...) 2012-02-24 22:51:51
Re: [DRGW] Caboose era question Mike Lehman (rebelmike@earthlink.n...) 2012-02-24 17:12:22
Re: [DRGW] Caboose era question mel mcfarland (mcmidland@yahoo.c...) 2012-02-24 15:24:13
[DRGW] Re: Caboose era question drgwcabman (johntudek@ymail.c...) 2012-02-25 00:53:12
Re: [DRGW] Re: Caboose era question Mike Lehman (rebelmike@earthlink.n...) 2012-02-25 12:10:19
Re: [DRGW] Re: Caboose era question Jim Eager (jeager@sympatico.c...) 2012-02-25 14:52:57
[DRGW] Re: Caboose era question drgwcabman (johntudek@ymail.c...) 2012-02-26 04:06:44
[DRGW] Re: Caboose era question drgwcabman (johntudek@ymail.c...) 2012-02-26 05:10:05
Re: [DRGW] Re: Caboose era question Jim Eager (jeager@sympatico.c...) 2012-02-26 01:09:30
[DRGW] Re: Caboose era question drgwcabman (johntudek@ymail.c...) 2012-02-26 06:44:37
Re: [DRGW] Re: Caboose era question Jim Eager (jeager@sympatico.c...) 2012-02-26 15:12:56
Re: [DRGW] Re: Caboose era question Jim Eager (jeager@sympatico.c...) 2012-02-26 15:25:51
Re: [DRGW] Re: Caboose era question Bob Webber (cz17@comcast.n...) 2012-02-26 14:27:55
[DRGW] Re: Caboose era question drgwcabman (johntudek@ymail.c...) 2012-02-27 00:44:49
[DRGW] Re: Caboose era question drgwcabman (johntudek@ymail.c...) 2012-02-28 02:07:16
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Message
From: Jim Eager (jeager@sympatico.c...)
Date: 2012-02-26 15:12:56
Subject: Re: [DRGW] Re: Caboose era question

John, you've piqued my interest enough to dig into my files to see
exactly what I have on the early Rio Grande standard gauge cabooses.

The earliest record I have is a photocopy of the September 1885
Railway Equipment and Milage Guide, which lists four sg cabooses
numbered 150-153. No dimensions are given.

The next record is from the February 1888 Official Railway Equipment
Guide, which lists two cars in the 0800-0999 series. Presumably these
would be either two renumbered 1885 cars, or the first two cars built
by Peninsular Car in 1888. (I lean toward the former.) Again, no
dimensions are shown

The January 1889 OREG lists 27 cars in the 0800-0899 series.
Presumably these would be the first 25 PCC cars, plus the two cars
listed in 1888.

The March 1891 OREG lists 50 31-foot cars in the 0800-0899 series,
which would include the 1890 PCC cars.

The 1891 D&RG Summary of Equipment lists 72 *32*-foot cars, which is
3 cars short for the series to run to 0875.

From here through 1903 I have copies of the annual Summary of
Equipment. (IIRC, you photocopied them for me at the Museum.) Through
1899 the car total slowly drops to 70 cars, and there is a note that
all cars were equipped with side doors, and that car 0802 had been
destroyed.

In the 1900 Summary the series runs 0800 to 0874, while the number of
cars with side doors drops to 65, plus 9 cars rebuilt to 30 feet with
no side doors, one of them numbered 0802. A new series of 30ft cars
has been added, 0875-0890, 16 cars total. These would be the cars
built or authorized to be built by the D&RG in 1899 and 1900, but the
car total is off.

The 1901 Summary shows 63 side door cars, plus 11 30ft rebuilds*. The
0875-0890 series still shows 16 cars.
(*0800, 0802, 0803, 0804, 0811, 0824, 0830, 0831, 0838, 0844, 0852)

The 1902 Summary shows 61 side door cars, plus 11 rebuilds. The
0875-0890 series now shows 14 cars.

The 1903 Summary shows 53 32ft cars (the side doors are no longer
mentioned), plus 11 rebuilds. The D&RG-built cars are now listed as
0875-0888. I suspect the missing two cars were either never built or
filled vacant numbers in the 0800-0874 block.


From here on the car totals for the 0800-0888 series slowly go down
year by year.

The 1907 Summary adds the 0889-0917 series (29 cars), *and* the RGW
0237-0251 (14 cars).
At this point the D&RG owned the RGW and new freight car orders were
being delivered with sub-blocks lettered for each company. Following
the D&RG+RGW merger of 1908 the RGW cars were renumbered to RGW
0918-0931, and then subsequently to D&RG 0918-0931. A single folio
sheet (F-149) covers both groups of cars in the 0889 to 0931 series,
listed a built by D&RG 1906.

Jim Eager <jeager@sympatico.c...>
Toronto, Ontario, Canada



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